Posts by Jehovah lol

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Dinosaurs in Paradise

by The Real Edward Gentry in

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i'm so thankful for sites such as this.

i realise it's our imperfection but god's organization is not always open to 'outside the box' thinkers such as ourselves.

i've been researching dinosaurs and god's reason for not preserving these beasts beyond the flood of noah's day.

Jehovah lol

Dinosaurs didn't survive the flood because they died out 65 million years before the flood didn't happen.

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i'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.

here is a sampling:.

"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".

Jehovah lol

I'm sure many of you are aware of the JWTalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).

Some of the forums there are visible to the public, and I've seen some crazy stuff. Here is a sampling:

"Satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from Eve's CREATION!"

It looks like JWs are still well into their numerology. It just shows the mental contortions they'll resort to in order to convince themselves they're living close to the end. This one is particularly desperate though. The bible gives no indication of when Eve was created so it's pointless to even consider her creation as a factor if you're so inclined to think in such a way.

Later in the same thread a poster mentions how JWs once thought that the end would come in 1975 because they 'read too much into the Watchtower's words' and that the WTS 'never said the end would come in 1975'. They really are deluded.

In a thread about the 1988 Revelation book, someone has a moment of promising curiosity.

"I wonder why the organization chose to delete it from the website, especially after we studied it multiple times!"

Yes, I wonder. Not to worry though, a genius is on hand to solve the problem.

"It was outdated since it was from 30 years ago [as of 2018]. A new one is likely in the works since publications are often deleted before a new version is made. Shows how close to the Great Tribulation we are. When the "Finished Mystery" came out {Primarily a judgement message against Babylon the Great in 1917} then two years later was the spiritual fall of Babylon the Great in 1919. So perhaps a new Revelation book will come out again just before the Great Tribulation and the final fall of Babylon the Great."

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one. In the very next post in the thread, someone offers an extended list of 'clarified beliefs' since 1988, without a hint of irony. How can people be so blind? The list includes everything from the feet in Nebuchadnezzar's dream image to couples drinking alcohol together before being engaged. https://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/23421-does-anyone-have-a-copy-of-the-revelation-book-in-pdf-they-could-share-with-me-please/

"The meeting of President Trump with his military was the same night that Belshazzar met with his military.The night of October 5. Sure is a coincidence and does not mean absolutely nothing is just coincidence. This autumn feels different. The world is falling apart but Jehovah's organization continues to move forward and up. Truly we can not give up now more than ever. Only a love and an unshakable faith along with loyalty, endurance and courage will help us to continue and pass the final test. The undeserved kindness of Jehovah will be with all those who are loyal to him."

The world is not falling apart and the WTS is begging for money. But keep telling yourself everything is going to plan. If you really think the world is falling apart then maybe you should open a history book and educate yourself on how difficult life used to be, before we had medicine and an understanding of hygiene, and the life expectancy was barely 50.

"Sounds like the world scene is about to start changing, now is the time to hold on to Jehovah's chariot and not let go!"

In fairness, a chariot is positively modern compared to the modes of transport we'd have to settle for in the New System.

"I think they are talking about how in the greek scriptures the only way they can put Jehovah in the text is recognixing where in the hebrew the quotes are from and so they are putting jehovah back in where those quotes are............ why they aren't there in the first place is a little strange to me... but i'm not a scholer or translator so.... but i understand the logic.... just not why the greek text don't use jehovah's name anywayz?"

Instead of asking why the New Testament doesn't use Jehovah's name, why not try to find out why the WTS shoehorned Jehovah into the New Testament instead? The answer may prove enlightening.

This thread bemoans gay marriage in Australia and contains predictably disturbing bigotry and hysterics. 'Oh won't someone think of the children!' https://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/33597-yes-to-gay-marriage-wins-in-australia/

There's a thread in which some crackpot scholar is praised for claiming Jesus didn't die on a cross. Iv'e never understood why JWs get so hung up (pun unintended) on the position of Jesus's hands when he died. I can't think of anything less important. https://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/881-jesus-may-not-have-died-on-the-cross-christian-scholar-claims/

There's also the inevitable smattering of threads and posts about how bloodless surgery vindicates the Watchtower's position on transfusions, even though their reasoning is entirely doctrinal, not medical.

Feel free to share any that you've found as well.

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Lead us not into temptation

by eyeuse2badub in

'lead us not into temptation': why pope francis is wrong about the lord's prayer.

m j c warren, lecturer in biblical and religious studies, university of .

pope francis recently announced that he thinks the common english translation of the lord’s prayer is mistranslated.

Jehovah lol

God probably doesn't exist so it doesn't really matter. It's just better to stick with what the writer(s) most likely meant, not what we want to believe or think an imaginary deity wants to tell us.

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The New JWdom - Vew of Older Publications? (and other related questions)

by Magnum in

i feel that there aren’t many of that type anymore, but there have to be some – mostly old-timers.

how do they study?.

when i was active, i collected all the old publications i could find.

Jehovah lol

I doubt the 28 year old exists outside of his imagination to be honest so I wouldn't worry. No sane woman in her twenties would go near an underage boy, there's nothing less attractive. She's either imaginary or deranged.

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The New JWdom - Vew of Older Publications? (and other related questions)

by Magnum in

i feel that there aren’t many of that type anymore, but there have to be some – mostly old-timers.

how do they study?.

when i was active, i collected all the old publications i could find.

Jehovah lol

The studious ones these days tend to end up here. Mostly thanks to the plethora of informstion available online.

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The Book of Revelation

by Jehovah lol in

are there any good scholarly texts on revelation that aren't written from the perspective of a believer?

whenever i try to find anything i can barely get more than a few sentences in before the supposed exegesis starts talking about how it applies to us living today and how we all need to get right with jesus.

i want to find a text that isn't coloured by the preconceptions that come with believing it's all real..

Jehovah lol

I've been on mushroom trips, heavy ones, you don't hallucinate in that kind of way, it's not like dreaming. I will look into Days of Vengeace, thank you.

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The Book of Revelation

by Jehovah lol in

are there any good scholarly texts on revelation that aren't written from the perspective of a believer?

whenever i try to find anything i can barely get more than a few sentences in before the supposed exegesis starts talking about how it applies to us living today and how we all need to get right with jesus.

i want to find a text that isn't coloured by the preconceptions that come with believing it's all real..

Jehovah lol

I doubt it was. There's an entire genre of such writings from that time period.

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Do JW's Still Shout "Aye!" at Assemblies?

by snugglebunny in

got my curious head on again.... i recall shouting "aye!

" in 1958 and again in 1963 and 1969. in the '63 resolution the wt put the un on notice in an assembly resolution worded something like "the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god's messianic kingdom by setting up ... the united nations, ... this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.

for years men without faith in god's kingdom have endeavored to get all people to worship this international image of human political sovereignty as the best hope for earthly peace and security, in fact, the last hope for humanity.

Jehovah lol

If you can remember the 60s then you weren't there.

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The Book of Revelation

by Jehovah lol in

are there any good scholarly texts on revelation that aren't written from the perspective of a believer?

whenever i try to find anything i can barely get more than a few sentences in before the supposed exegesis starts talking about how it applies to us living today and how we all need to get right with jesus.

i want to find a text that isn't coloured by the preconceptions that come with believing it's all real..

Jehovah lol

Are there any good scholarly texts on Revelation that aren't written from the perspective of a believer? Whenever I try to find anything I can barely get more than a few sentences in before the supposed exegesis starts talking about how it applies to us living today and how we all need to get right with Jesus. I want to find a text that isn't coloured by the preconceptions that come with believing it's all real.

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The Seven Trumpets

by Jehovah lol in

is it still watchtower dogma that the seven trumpets of revelation refer to seven conventions in the 1920s?

would many jws these days even be aware of this?

i find it so amusing that seven little conventions in the distant past, almost a century ago, could be equated with such an iconic biblical passage.

Jehovah lol

Arguing with a JW about that kind of stuff is like talking to a parrot.